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ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | July 31st, 2009 2:08 pm | #1 |
Changes coming in the hotfix:
- Hero's now reward gold based on their level, instead of 250-300. HERO LEVEL * 20 + 140
- Evasion effects have been revamped on related abilities (evasion, silence, druken haze, druken brawler, etc.). They have been lowered substantially for the most part. Just so people understand the math behind evasion: If you have an ability jump from 42% to 52% evasion, the ability just got 50% more powerful, not 10% more powerful or 25% more powerful, like many people think. Armor works the same way, that's why you see diminishing returns, however, 1 point of armor will always make your character have 6% more resistance, regardless of how much armor you already have.
- Drunken Haze's slow effect is now 5/10/15/20/25/33 from 10/10/10/15/15/15 %
- Doom can now be cast on heroes. However, Doom has a duration on heroes (10/15/18 seconds) and last forever on non-heroes. In addition, Doom now deals way less damage than before.
- Frost Nova has been weakened. It now deals 75/125/175/225/275/350 damage in an AoE, down from 75/150/225/300/375/450
- RBT will not be available in 4.83 due to technical issues. He should return in a future patch.
- Avalanche now has Omnismack
- Disease Cloud now lasts only 6 seconds, down from 20. Abom's gold reward has been reduced slightly.
- Pocket Factory bounty increased
- Lifesap Totem now costs 115 mana, down from 150
- Tank attack now grants spell immunity
- Fixed many hotkey issues
- Blizzard now has 1 less wave at all levels
- Rain of fire now deals 23% less damage at level 6
- New command to toggle AI on teams: -ai (Player #)
Ex. "-ai 1" would turn player 1's ai on/off.
Note: You cannot toggle AI on enemy teams.
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Teddy
 Posts: 20 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 8th, 2009 5:56 pm | #2 |
I can`T host the old XV Version. The new patch prevents the playing of the old versions. When will the new version? |
ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | August 8th, 2009 10:35 pm | #3 |
I am very aware of this issue. That is why I am rushing to get the map fixed. The Reckless Beta-Tester's programming has to be redone. If I cannot get it done quickly, I will remove the hero temporarily until fixed. The Shadow of Destruction |
Maryus
![]() Posts: 1 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 14th, 2009 4:52 pm | #4 |
Hey, I know you really want to get Reckless beta tester up, but if you could release a version without him, that would be awesome because I really want to play XV again.
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ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | August 14th, 2009 7:47 pm | #5 |
Check back later tonight!  The Shadow of Destruction |
Aliens_300c
 Posts: 10 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 14th, 2009 9:07 pm | #6 |
Woohoo. *awaits the release* I've been checking this site like 5 times a day. I'm addicted.
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ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | August 15th, 2009 12:39 am | #7 |
The map is working until optimized. Working right now, but still having issues. The Shadow of Destruction |
Aliens_300c
 Posts: 10 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 15th, 2009 12:49 am | #8 |
Gimme link plzzz! I needs to play 
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ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | August 15th, 2009 12:54 am | #9 |
Haha, well... Right now there may be another sacrifice... The loading time may be 3-4 times as long, because optimizing tools are not currently working with the latest patch. The Shadow of Destruction |
Aliens_300c
 Posts: 10 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 15th, 2009 12:57 am | #10 |
So, I can wait the extra 4 minutes or whatever I just really want to play XV, If you even want me to beta test I've got a few buddies in ventrilo right now that are super egar to play XV. Please lord? Grant me this one wish? Oh Mighty Footmen god!
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ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | August 15th, 2009 1:36 am | #11 |
O_O A GOD huh?
Hm... Well in that case...
It's not ready...
LOL, sorry bud, too many issues, I will get it out ASAP. The Shadow of Destruction |
ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | August 16th, 2009 10:57 am | #12 |
I don't know if you noticed, but the change log has been expanding slightly. Right now, the map is done, but optimization is not. Let me just say, an unoptimized XV is unplayable. The Shadow of Destruction |
Aliens_300c
 Posts: 10 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 16th, 2009 3:59 pm | #13 |
I'm confused about the post on the main page? No XV today or yes XV today?
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ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | August 16th, 2009 4:03 pm | #14 |
Well, I will probably release a semi-optimized version. I plan to release it today, even if I can't finish the optimization. However, I may re-release it again soon, just be sure to replace the version you are playing when I do. The Shadow of Destruction |
Aliens_300c
 Posts: 10 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 16th, 2009 5:33 pm | #15 |
Will do, Thank you!
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wc_old_school
 Posts: 13 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 16th, 2009 5:38 pm | #16 |
alien get off his nut sack
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Aliens_300c
 Posts: 10 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 16th, 2009 5:44 pm | #17 |
WC_old_school is the worlds angriest XV player. He's like %(*$ing Supreme champion *cry,whine* 
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wc_old_school
 Posts: 13 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 16th, 2009 5:45 pm | #18 |
oh really who got owned 1vs1? dont worry ill wait
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ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | August 16th, 2009 6:43 pm | #19 |
If there are any balance changes you feel are necessary, let me know before release tonight. I will CONSIDER them. The Shadow of Destruction |
XDomineX
![]() Posts: 4 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 16th, 2009 8:17 pm | #20 |
Hey, please excuse me if you have already addressed these issues since 4.64 (I personally don't like 4.7 and haven't played 4.82), but I think the damage from blizzard, flame strike, and rain of fire should be substantially reduced. Also, mirror images from the blademaster that deal damage should have a bounty on them imo. Besides that, the Jaood is way overpowered and could use some attack speed reduction or lose the bloodlust ability. Sorry if I seem like a whiner cuz I'm not. I simply think that XV is by far the best version and want to help it continue to get better.
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ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | August 16th, 2009 9:18 pm | #21 |
Haha, yeah, many of those abilities were changed since 4.64, primarily jaood. I think you will see the bounty change will probably also make intelligence heroes weaker, but I could be wrong.
I am not sure if I would necessarily consider those heroes OP, but I will certain take a look at them. The Shadow of Destruction |
wc_old_school
 Posts: 13 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 16th, 2009 9:50 pm | #22 |

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ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | August 16th, 2009 10:58 pm | #23 |
So, apparently, Vex is GMT... Which means, it could be a while. No worries. The Shadow of Destruction |
XDomineX
![]() Posts: 4 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 16th, 2009 11:41 pm | #24 |
Well, I just know that I will be able to seriously rape with heroes sporting blizzard, flame strike, or rain of fire because you can just spam them in the first battle and rake in the gold. It takes SOME intelligence and skill to know how to use them the best way, but it doesn't take much. Sometimes they get owned by heroes like the death knight, but it's always a toss-up if such a hero will be in the gameplay and if the person using that hero has half a brain.
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ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | August 17th, 2009 12:22 am | #25 |
Well... Against good players, all of those abilities can be dodged... I suppose if you play online, you can quickly kill enemies that do not move their units.
I am not sure if that means I should change it or not. The Shadow of Destruction |
XDomineX
![]() Posts: 4 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 17th, 2009 12:48 am | #26 |
Well, I play pretty much exclusively online. People tend to not realize what is happening before it's too late to do anything about it.
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ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | August 17th, 2009 12:53 am | #27 |
Ok, well... Looking at the numbers, they will get some tweaks a little bit...
Blizzard - 1 less wave at all levels
Rain of Fire - Damage at level 6 reduced by 23%
Flamestrike seems fine to me in comparison to other spells. In fact, it seems weak, but I won't change it. The Shadow of Destruction |
wc_old_school
 Posts: 13 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 17th, 2009 3:20 am | #28 |
thank you thank you thank you i can now play footmen with battlefield view
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XDomineX
![]() Posts: 4 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 17th, 2009 8:36 am | #29 |
Ok, thank you very much for the reductions on blizzard and rain of fire! (:
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ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | August 17th, 2009 10:27 am | #30 |
Of course! 
Let me know how 4.83 plays for everyone! The Shadow of Destruction |
Aliens_300c
 Posts: 10 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 17th, 2009 3:03 pm | #31 |
Hey, Just wanted to say thanks bro! I love it. XV is back and I can finally rape and pillage again! Bwahahaha! I will leave Warcraft III up with the map on so people can download it! I has a 25mbit connection so they should be able to pop right in and grab it!
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ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | August 17th, 2009 7:46 pm | #32 |
Sounds great! You are always welcome to use a hosting bot... The Shadow of Destruction |
wc_old_school
 Posts: 13 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 17th, 2009 9:47 pm | #33 |
thank you again, xv version 4.83 is working just fine have played at least 7 games now and no flaws.
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ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | August 17th, 2009 10:39 pm | #34 |
No problem!  The Shadow of Destruction |
Aliens_300c
 Posts: 10 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 18th, 2009 9:19 pm | #35 |
Hey, Do you add hero's the the versions still? If you could model a Hero off my Tauren Tattoo that would be epic! entangling roots, thunder clap and an Aura would be neat. with Rhino's or the plague as the special  
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ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | August 18th, 2009 9:44 pm | #36 |
No time to really add heroes anymore... The Shadow of Destruction |
ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | August 19th, 2009 12:21 am | #37 |
Can I get feedback on Evasion, Silence, Drunken Haze, Drunken Brawler, etc. and the heroes that use these abilities? The Shadow of Destruction |
wc_old_school
 Posts: 13 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 22nd, 2009 2:26 am | #38 |
alrite ill try to take notes
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Aliens_300c
 Posts: 10 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 22nd, 2009 2:14 pm | #39 |
fyi, he was totally drunk when he posted this. is Evasion stronger? Drunken Haze seems stronger too. I stay away from drunken Brawler, I just don't pick it as an ability until level 16.
One thing I have noticed, there is an Orc hero (like a tauren) that is just to damn strong. He has War Stomp and some sort of Avatar ability. Whenever I see him in a game I just think to myself "well, this game is over." he is just to strong. have you thought about making his avatar ability shorter?
Such as last night, we were playing a game, we all had good hero's with tier 4, levels like 9/9/8 and he would just come into our base and destroy everyone. he only had Gauntlet of might & Super Gauntlet (whatever they're called in the personal shop) he would use his avatar and run out of the base right before it ran out of time..and by that time he made a good 9000+ gold.
Other than that the game seems pretty damn balanced.
I will keep tabs on the abilities you asked for feedback on and report back here'
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wc_old_school
 Posts: 13 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 22nd, 2009 5:29 pm | #40 |
fyi alien is kind of a noob he has no idea what hero is what! lol he is talking about the mirror image of dino hero not sure of the name at the momoent
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ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | August 24th, 2009 12:06 am | #41 |
Evasion is MUCH weaker now. So, I dunno what you mean.
Also, it sounds like you are referring to blood warrior. And you are wrong, I would list that hero as top 5 worst heroes in the game, in my opinion. The Shadow of Destruction |
wc_old_school
 Posts: 13 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 29th, 2009 2:24 am | #42 |
me and alien have played alot and it the game has exited completly to the desktop about 3 times now. not sure if it is a lame hack some one has or the game itself?
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ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | August 29th, 2009 2:39 am | #43 |
It is s known crash. As a matter of fact, there is a thread on it. I have asked for information on the error for about a year now. Are you playing with AI in your games? The Shadow of Destruction |
wc_old_school
 Posts: 13 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 29th, 2009 2:54 am | #44 |
in games
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ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | August 29th, 2009 10:28 am | #45 |
You are playing with AI online? I believe the issue is related to playing with computer AI. Try playing games without computer AI and see if that resolves the issue. The Shadow of Destruction |
wc_old_school
 Posts: 13 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 29th, 2009 8:58 pm | #46 |
in game online with other players not ai
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wc_old_school
 Posts: 13 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 29th, 2009 10:13 pm | #47 |
by the way wich server do you play on? we are usually on us west
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ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | August 29th, 2009 11:29 pm | #48 |
Well, if you could describe the exact actions that were occurring upon the crash in the future, it'd be appreciated. Hopefully we can find a trend. Also, if you record the heroes before each match for every player and then post them here if the map crashes, that may allow me to narrow down to a specific hero if it is a specific ability.
Oh and USEast, but I am rarely on nowadays. The Shadow of Destruction |
wc_old_school
 Posts: 13 Group: Registered Status: offline | | August 31st, 2009 1:00 am | #49 |
it crashes in about 5 minutes in and this has only happened in this version, i have played footmen frenzy for about 5 years and this is the first
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ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | August 31st, 2009 10:00 am | #50 |
It happened in 4.82. Check old threads. The Shadow of Destruction |
BH13 Administrator
 Posts: 174 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | September 4th, 2009 11:33 pm | #51 |
looks like things kept bumping after I disappeared again.
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ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | September 5th, 2009 1:11 pm | #52 |
Yep, things kept moving. However, the crash in 4.81-4.83 is driving me NUTS.
I am really going to go all out when I make frenzy for sc2. The Shadow of Destruction |
BH13 Administrator
 Posts: 174 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | September 6th, 2009 6:50 pm | #53 |
when it finally comes out XP. but yeah, I am pretty freaking excited for it, I just wish is was still coming out in fall.
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ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | September 6th, 2009 11:33 pm | #54 |
Wow...
Bug: Neutral heroes give twice as much gold upon death.
How the heck did I miss that... I swear I played several games and didn't notice. The Shadow of Destruction |
BH13 Administrator
 Posts: 174 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | September 9th, 2009 3:13 am | #55 |
I hope you have it fixed by now >.>
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ShadowDestroyer Administrator
 Posts: 360 Group: Administrators Status: offline | | September 9th, 2009 4:58 pm | #56 |
Well, it's easy to fix, but it isn't SUPER critical.
I want to find the cause of the crash and get RBT back in action. The Shadow of Destruction |